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00:00:06:23\nKristen Archival,\r\n\n00:00:06:23 - 00:00:09:23\nOctober 29th, 1964.\n\n00:00:09:23 - 00:00:11:08\nAnd Mary Goodfader.\n\n00:00:11:08 - 00:00:14:22\nJuly 9th, 1945.\n\n00:00:14:22 - 00:00:17:16\nI came to Venice\n\n00:00:17:16 - 00:00:21:18\nin 1988, so I was 24 years old.\n\n00:00:21:18 - 00:00:26:03\nI drove across the country\rfrom Pennsylvania with a boyfriend.\n\n00:00:26:03 - 00:00:30:03\nHe told me, we're going to go live\rwith his friend in Venice.\n\n00:00:30:03 - 00:00:32:21\nHis friend lived at the end of Horizon\r\n\n00:00:32:21 - 00:00:36:02\non Speedway, where the Sidewalk Cafe is,\r\n\n00:00:36:02 - 00:00:40:05\nand I had never been able\rto walk on the beach or\n\n00:00:40:05 - 00:00:43:19\nthe boardwalk was such\ra beautiful place and all the artists\n\n00:00:43:19 - 00:00:47:20\nand in the beginning,\rbecause I came from central Pennsylvania,\n\n00:00:47:20 - 00:00:52:22\nwhere it's rolling hills and farmland\rthat I have gone to college in Ithaca,\n\n00:00:52:22 - 00:00:56:17\nwhich is also another\rvery green and quiet little town.\n\n00:00:56:17 - 00:01:01:15\nMy eyes were wide open\rand it also was much more conservative.\n\n00:01:01:15 - 00:01:04:23\nSo I just was taking it in like eye candy.\n\n00:01:04:23 - 00:01:07:05\nAnd for me,\n\n00:01:07:05 - 00:01:08:00\na couple of days\n\n00:01:08:00 - 00:01:11:19\nafter I was here, I went down\rand they were doing the roller boogie.\n\n00:01:11:19 - 00:01:17:16\nI had no idea what that was,\rand I loved it.\n\n00:01:17:16 - 00:01:20:21\nAnd I sat and I watched them,\rand I watched them.\n\n00:01:20:21 - 00:01:23:21\nAnd there was the fire pits\rand the graffiti pits...\n\n00:01:23:21 - 00:01:26:22\nBeing part of, ummm...\n\n00:01:26:22 - 00:01:29:16\nthings that I had never \rseen before, I guess,\n\n00:01:29:16 - 00:01:31:02\nand the curiosity,\n\n00:01:31:02 - 00:01:35:14\nand the more I was here, the more I\rlearned, the more I fell in love with it.\n\n00:01:35:14 - 00:01:37:15\nI grew up in Iowa\n\n00:01:37:15 - 00:01:41:16\nand came out to California\rto go to school at Occidental College.\n\n00:01:41:16 - 00:01:45:23\nI didn't know the beach at all,\rand I married after college and moved\n\n00:01:45:23 - 00:01:51:07\nto live in a beautiful suburban\rhome of Palos Verdes and have my children.\n\n00:01:51:07 - 00:01:54:08\nAnd I felt so isolated\n\n00:01:54:08 - 00:01:57:02\nand so not in a big city,\n\n00:01:57:02 - 00:01:59:14\nand articles were being written\rabout Venice Beach,\n\n00:01:59:14 - 00:02:01:13\nand it was the early ‘70’s.\n\n00:02:01:13 - 00:02:05:17\nThey were hoping to revitalize it\rand we came up to look at it\n\n00:02:05:17 - 00:02:08:03\nand I said to my husband,\r“I can't stand Palos Verdes so\n\n00:02:08:03 - 00:02:09:08\nlet's move to Venice.”\n\n00:02:09:08 - 00:02:14:08\nAnd he said, “Live on an alley\rand have stoop living?”\n\n00:02:14:08 - 00:02:16:08\nAnd I convinced him to do that.\n\n00:02:16:08 - 00:02:21:12\nIt's always been such a non-conformist,\rkooky area that just intrigued me.\n\n00:02:21:12 - 00:02:23:20\nIt intrigued me\rthe way the village does in New York.\n\n00:02:23:20 - 00:02:30:16\nUm, but I just thought it was arty and bohemian\rand I, that intrigued me.\n\n00:02:30:16 - 00:02:32:03\nBut it was very different then.\n\n00:02:32:03 - 00:02:33:14\nYou were right on the beach\n\n00:02:33:14 - 00:02:36:13\nand the most enormous beach.\n\n00:02:36:13 - 00:02:39:04\nI couldn't understand why it wasn't\n\n00:02:39:04 - 00:02:41:06\nuh...different than it was,\n\n00:02:41:06 - 00:02:44:16\nwhy people would choose the Palisades\n\n00:02:44:16 - 00:02:46:22\nand why Venice stayed so funky.\n\n00:02:46:22 - 00:02:50:10\nBut now I know, there's a, there's a\n\n00:02:50:10 - 00:02:51:23\nethos of Venice,\n\n00:02:51:23 - 00:02:53:02\nthey liked that\n\n00:02:53:02 - 00:02:56:06\nthey were going to keep it that way,\rand they still keep it that way.\n\n00:02:56:06 - 00:02:59:11\nThere's still the funky houses,\rthe bohemian attitude,\n\n00:02:59:11 - 00:03:02:17\nthe diverse, diverse community\n\n00:03:02:17 - 00:03:07:01\nof smart people, artists, actors, writers.\n\n00:03:07:01 - 00:03:10:20\nAbbott Kinney was then Washington,\rand there was all these,\n\n00:03:10:20 - 00:03:13:20\nit was mostly warehouses.\n\n00:03:13:20 - 00:03:17:22\nI remember when I first found\rmy first walk street and\n\n00:03:17:22 - 00:03:21:09\nI think it was like Marketplace between\n\n00:03:21:09 - 00:03:23:18\nwhat's now Abbey Kinney and Lincoln,\n\n00:03:23:18 - 00:03:26:10\nand I felt like I found the Secret Garden and\n\n00:03:26:10 - 00:03:29:21\nI just was so intrigued and,\n\n00:03:29:21 - 00:03:32:12\nyou know, just discovering it on foot.\n\n00:03:32:12 - 00:03:39:14\nAnd, I too fell in love\rwith the eclectic-ness and the artists and uhmm...\n\n00:03:39:14 - 00:03:41:08\nHarry Perry.\n\n00:03:41:08 - 00:03:45:04\nHarry Perry has been here\ras long as both of us.\n\n00:03:45:04 - 00:03:46:09\nYup...\n\n00:03:46:09 - 00:03:49:19\nHe still thinks the same songs.\n\n00:03:49:19 - 00:03:50:23\nHe does...\n\n00:03:50:23 - 00:03:54:03\nSo it was, yeah, it was great.\n\n00:03:54:03 - 00:03:56:03\n“So it sounds like with both you\rthe boardwalk scene\n\n00:03:56:03 - 00:03:59:23\nkind of grabbed both of you\rin terms of just being a spectacle.”\n\n00:03:59:23 - 00:04:05:05\nWell, the boardwalk grabbed me,\rgrabbed us in a business sense, because\n\n00:04:05:05 - 00:04:09:03\nhow I really became familiar with it is we,\rI had the bookstore\n\n00:04:09:03 - 00:04:12:22\nin Marina del Rey, and we needed a place\rto move the bookstore.\n\n00:04:12:22 - 00:04:16:03\nThe lease was up\rand we didn't have a location.\n\n00:04:16:03 - 00:04:20:11\nAnd my husband saw this \rempty, dilapidated building\n\n00:04:20:11 - 00:04:23:07\nboarded up at the end of Horizon.\n\n00:04:23:07 - 00:04:24:19\nBut that was before you were here.\n\n00:04:24:19 - 00:04:28:04\nThe cafe was open when you came and it was\n\n00:04:28:04 - 00:04:32:02\nhad graffiti saying\r‘Stop bombing in Cambodia.’\n\n00:04:32:02 - 00:04:35:02\nThat was 1976.\n\n00:04:35:02 - 00:04:38:09\nAnd he said, “Wouldn't that be a good place\rto put a bookstore in there?”\n\n00:04:38:09 - 00:04:43:09\nAnd he said, “Maybe I'll just open a little\rto-go window, sell coffee.”\n\n00:04:43:09 - 00:04:47:06\nAnd the ball was rolling and everything.\n\n00:04:47:06 - 00:04:50:04\nThe roller skates appeared in 1976.\n\n00:04:50:04 - 00:04:53:11\nThey invented the polyurethane wheels\n\n00:04:53:11 - 00:04:56:20\nand suddenly\rthey could roller skate on the boardwalk.\n\n00:04:56:20 - 00:04:58:15\nAnd the timing was great.\n\n00:04:58:15 - 00:05:01:23\nVendors thought, well, we come down here,\rwhy can't we sell things\n\n00:05:01:23 - 00:05:03:22\non the boardwalk? \n\n00:05:03:22 - 00:05:06:20\nTo get the property we had to deal\rwith the Coastal Commission.\n\n00:05:06:20 - 00:05:10:04\nMy mother was my partner in the bookstore\rand she was 70\n\n00:05:10:04 - 00:05:13:08\nand she had to go\rbefore the Coastal Commission and promised\n\n00:05:13:08 - 00:05:16:16\nthat she wouldn't sell adult literature\ror pornography.\n\n00:05:16:16 - 00:05:19:20\nA little gray haired woman like me.\n\n00:05:19:20 - 00:05:22:07\nAnd so we had that to deal with.\n\n00:05:22:07 - 00:05:23:20\nThe Coastal Commission was very strict\n\n00:05:23:20 - 00:05:27:11\nsaying you couldn't open a restaurant\runless you had one parking space\n\n00:05:27:11 - 00:05:31:14\nfor every eight people\rthat could be seated at the restaurant.\n\n00:05:31:14 - 00:05:34:09\nSo we needed parking,\rwell there was no parking on the beach,\n\n00:05:34:09 - 00:05:36:11\nbut there were empty lots.\n\n00:05:36:11 - 00:05:41:00\nSo we delved into the history of Venice,\rand of course, one was owned\n\n00:05:41:00 - 00:05:44:22\nby the accountant of Abbot Kinney\rand he gave them the lot.\n\n00:05:44:22 - 00:05:46:21\nAnd one was owned by somebody else.\n\n00:05:46:21 - 00:05:49:21\nSo we were driving around California\rmeeting these people\n\n00:05:49:21 - 00:05:55:03\nwho had inherited this land\rasked if we could rent their empty lots.\n\n00:05:55:03 - 00:05:59:22\nWe opened in June of ‘76\rand the bookstore opened in August.\n\n00:05:59:22 - 00:06:01:21\nBookstore was established at the Marina\n\n00:06:01:21 - 00:06:06:02\nso that was just moving stuff over.\n\n00:06:06:02 - 00:06:08:21\nThe cafe was much more experimental\n\n00:06:08:21 - 00:06:10:14\nbecause he was an engineer.\n\n00:06:10:14 - 00:06:15:22\nHe wasn’t a restauranteur\rso he experimented a great deal.\n\n00:06:15:22 - 00:06:19:12\n“Yeah,  so now we got a sense of the beginnings\rof the bookstore and the cafe, Kristen\n\n00:06:19:12 - 00:06:24:01\ntalk about how you came into Mary’s world\rand became a part of all this.”\n\n00:06:24:01 - 00:06:27:03\nWell, I started there as a host.  Here I was,\n\n00:06:27:03 - 00:06:31:05\nI landed on the end of, right,\rright across the street\n\n00:06:31:05 - 00:06:33:21\nand I got hired there.\n\n00:06:33:21 - 00:06:39:06\nAt that time, we were and we still are,\rbut we were really a big family.\n\n00:06:39:06 - 00:06:41:09\nAnd...\rIt's true.\n\n00:06:41:09 - 00:06:45:13\nBob in particular, really kind of fathered\rall of us and guided us.\n\n00:06:45:13 - 00:06:48:02\nSo I went from\n\n00:06:48:02 - 00:06:52:10\nhost to waitress to bartender\rto part time night manager,\n\n00:06:52:10 - 00:06:57:15\nand then I stopped and started\rdoing a little bit of set decorating.\n\n00:06:57:15 - 00:07:01:00\nAt that time,\ra full time manager was leaving\n\n00:07:01:00 - 00:07:03:03\nand they asked me to come back.\n\n00:07:03:03 - 00:07:04:23\n Shortly after\n\n00:07:05:14 - 00:07:08:05\nummm, the general manager left\n\n00:07:08:05 - 00:07:11:02\nand Bob asked me to be general manager.\n\n00:07:11:02 - 00:07:14:02\nAnd I was like,\rno, no, I don't know how to do that.\n\n00:07:14:05 - 00:07:15:12\nMy background is this.\n\n00:07:15:12 - 00:07:19:11\nAnd he said, “That part\rI can teach you, but I trust you\n\n00:07:19:11 - 00:07:22:11\nand I want you really to be the face\rof the restaurant at this time.”\n\n00:07:22:11 - 00:07:26:07\nAnd we've had a lot of famous actors\rcome through the doors.\n\n00:07:26:07 - 00:07:30:15\nYes. Wining and dining\rand reading a lot of...\n\n00:07:30:15 - 00:07:33:03\nLiz Taylor, she came in\n\n00:07:33:03 - 00:07:36:05\nand she was in her later years.\n\n00:07:36:05 - 00:07:39:22\nShe came in a couple of times\rand she liked a personal pizza\n\n00:07:39:22 - 00:07:44:11\nwith pepperoni and champagne with chambord.\rShe called it a Satin Doll.\n\n00:07:44:11 - 00:07:48:19\nDick VanDyke is another one\rthat was so exciting for me to see.\n\n00:07:48:19 - 00:07:53:07\nAnd he, there was a summer he was coming in\rquite often and having cheeseburgers,\n\n00:07:53:07 - 00:07:58:07\nand he was so just unassuming and lovely,\ryou know, and\n\n00:07:58:07 - 00:08:02:05\npeople would see him and he just was very,\ryou know, always very gracious.\n\n00:08:02:05 - 00:08:05:15\nI think if they come to the cafe,\rthey're pretty laid back.\n\n00:08:05:15 - 00:08:08:05\nAnthony Quinn came into the bookstore.\n\n00:08:08:05 - 00:08:14:11\nRex Harrison came in once, said it was a\rtasteful, tasteful little bookstore.\n\n00:08:14:13 - 00:08:17:16\nThe Rock and the Rock.\n\n00:08:17:16 - 00:08:20:15\nSo Tony Bill lives in Venice,\n\n00:08:20:15 - 00:08:23:20\nand his studio was around the corner.\n\n00:08:23:20 - 00:08:26:20\nI don't know\rwhether you've interviewed him, but he\n\n00:08:26:20 - 00:08:29:17\nhe brought a lot of stars.\n\n00:08:29:17 - 00:08:32:18\nHe was very, is very loyal to the bookstore\n\n00:08:32:18 - 00:08:37:12\nand would have events at his restaurant\rwhere the bookstore would be involved.\n\n00:08:37:12 - 00:08:40:16\n“And so over the decades,\rhow have you seen things change from\n\n00:08:40:16 - 00:08:44:02\nboth of your perches?” (inaudible)\n\n00:08:44:02 - 00:08:46:11\n“from your perspective.\n\n00:08:46:11 - 00:08:48:15\nBoth good and bad.”\n\n00:08:48:15 - 00:08:51:07\nThere is a lot of negative talk about it.\n\n00:08:51:07 - 00:08:52:18\nAnd I, having lived here\n\n00:08:52:18 - 00:08:56:02\nas long as I have,\rI would say that Venice has not changed \n\n00:08:56:02 - 00:08:59:10\nand people will argue with me\rall the time about this,\n\n00:08:59:10 - 00:09:02:03\nbut it's based on not changing.\n\n00:09:02:03 - 00:09:07:10\nAnd so there's constant barriers\rto change, constant discussions.\n\n00:09:07:10 - 00:09:10:17\nYou know, you have a proposition,\ryou have a committee of four\n\n00:09:10:17 - 00:09:13:19\nand you have six different\ropinions in Venice and you have six\n\n00:09:13:19 - 00:09:17:15\ndifferent committees\rand everything is discussed to the hilt.\n\n00:09:17:15 - 00:09:21:09\nSo I feel that it's kept its diversity\n\n00:09:21:09 - 00:09:24:04\nand I feel that that still exists.\n\n00:09:24:04 - 00:09:26:12\nIt can't not change.\n\n00:09:26:12 - 00:09:31:00\nI think it would just,\rVenice has stayed remarkably unique.\n\n00:09:31:00 - 00:09:35:09\nWell, Venice saved me\rbecause I really would have been the angry\n\n00:09:35:09 - 00:09:39:09\nwhite housewife going berserk in suburbia.\n\n00:09:39:10 - 00:09:43:10\nAnd now I've never been bored a day\rin my life living in Venice\n\n00:09:43:10 - 00:09:48:11\nand running a bookstore and raising\rmy children here and having the cafe and...\n\n00:09:48:11 - 00:09:53:04\nit’s made me an optimist,\rbecause Venice doesn't change.\n\n00:09:53:06 - 00:09:56:00\nBasically is pretty much the same.\n\n00:09:56:00 - 00:10:00:01\nThe cost of living has gotten very high\rin it,  I guess that's a big change.\n\n00:10:00:01 - 00:10:03:06\nBut uh, you know, the, the perspective\n\n00:10:03:06 - 00:10:07:01\nof the people who live in Venice\rand we live in a very liberal section.\n\n00:10:07:01 - 00:10:10:06\nComing from a conservative place,\n\n00:10:10:06 - 00:10:14:18\nit took me a while to embrace it\n\n00:10:14:18 - 00:10:18:03\nbecause it felt uncomfortable for me.\rEven though I liked it\n\n00:10:18:03 - 00:10:22:23\nand was exploring it,\n\n00:10:22:23 - 00:10:24:21\nit felt uncomfortable.\n\n00:10:24:21 - 00:10:32:12\nNow... I feel uncomfortable going to places\rthat are not eclectic and artsy\n\n00:10:32:12 - 00:10:36:10\nand so many interesting people\rthat are liberal\n\n00:10:36:10 - 00:10:42:21\nand forward thinking and, interesting,\ryou know, just fun to be around\n\n00:10:42:21 - 00:10:47:07\nand they're here\rand it's not too hard to find them.\n\n00:10:47:07 - 00:10:49:16\nThey come to where we are.\n\n00:10:49:16 - 00:10:53:06\nWe're lucky.  All they have to do is... \rThey come to us.  Uh huh...\n\n00:10:53:06 - 00:10:55:17\nBeing in the middle of the boardwalk\n\n00:10:55:17 - 00:11:00:18\nand, you know, I've seen and heard\rso many interesting people\n\n00:11:00:18 - 00:11:03:01\nand their stories and...\n\n00:11:03:01 - 00:11:06:08\nunderstand humanity and\n\n00:11:07:02 - 00:11:09:06\npeople aren't afraid here of that.\n\n00:11:09:06 - 00:11:11:21\nYou know, they they express themselves.\n\n00:11:11:21 - 00:11:14:23\nThey crack open...and never boring.\rAnd never boring...\n\n00:11:14:23 - 00:11:17:12\n“And never boring...that’s a good one”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://veniceheritagemuseum.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2416/collection_resources/119599/file/225694#t=0.0,697.30133"}]}]}]}