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At exactly 6 a.m.\n\n00:00:41:17 - 00:00:48:08\nthe next morning, we were welcomed\rto Venice by a magnitude 6.6 earthquake.\n\n00:00:48:08 - 00:00:50:20\nThis was another pattern of threes for me,\n\n00:00:50:20 - 00:00:55:15\nthis one being six,\rsix, six, the symbol for the devil.\n\n00:00:55:15 - 00:00:58:05\nWith a thunderous noise and ungodly shaking,\n\n00:00:58:05 - 00:01:00:23\nall my dishes flew out of the cabinets.\n\n00:01:00:23 - 00:01:04:21\nI jolted out of bed and ran\rand swooped up Viva to carry her outside\n\n00:01:04:21 - 00:01:08:15\ninto open space.  My rattled nerves calmed\n\n00:01:08:15 - 00:01:11:10\nwhen I noticed the sun had just risen\n\n00:01:11:10 - 00:01:14:06\nand I felt the magnitude of warm,\n\n00:01:14:06 - 00:01:17:15\nsunny Santa Ana winds of the day.\n\n00:01:17:15 - 00:01:21:14\nAfraid to go back indoors, I buckled\rViva in the back baby\n\n00:01:21:14 - 00:01:24:23\nseat of my bicycle and off we rode along\n\n00:01:24:23 - 00:01:28:01\nthe Venice boardwalk under an open sky.\n\n00:01:28:01 - 00:01:31:06\nThe clouds were tinged with soft pinks\n\n00:01:31:06 - 00:01:35:05\nand the sky and ocean\rglimmered in its peachy glow.\n\n00:01:35:05 - 00:01:38:13\nI passed neighbors\rI had yet to meet all outside\n\n00:01:38:13 - 00:01:42:14\ndiscussing the shaker,\rbut I just kept riding along.\n\n00:01:42:14 - 00:01:47:09\nThis was the same beach and boardwalk\rwhere I had plunged recklessly into deep,\n\n00:01:47:09 - 00:01:51:00\ndark waters less than five years prior\n\n00:01:51:00 - 00:01:54:11\nand luckily came out alive.  On that day,\n\n00:01:54:11 - 00:01:56:18\ndespite the disruption in nature,\n\n00:01:56:18 - 00:01:58:22\nthe glory of creation was evident.\n\n00:01:58:22 - 00:02:00:16\nThe mountains surrounding the L.A.\n\n00:02:00:16 - 00:02:05:17\nbasin were vivid, 3-D,\rand only peace and hope lived in me.\n\n00:02:05:19 - 00:02:09:22\nThese glimpses of a peace that surpassed\rhuman understanding\n\n00:02:09:22 - 00:02:14:12\nmade me fearless in the face\rof the unknown and the unsettling earth\n\n00:02:14:12 - 00:02:18:07\nthat rumbled afterwards with many aftershocks.\n\n00:02:18:07 - 00:02:22:03\nI felt only gratitude\rthat Viva and I were both alive\n\n00:02:22:03 - 00:02:26:17\nand that I had a joyful baby\rwho sang at the top of her lungs.\n\n00:02:26:17 - 00:02:28:14\nLa, la la la la.\n\n00:02:28:14 - 00:02:34:12\nFrom the back of my bicycle\ras I watched for signs of a tsunami\n\n00:02:34:12 - 00:02:38:05\nin the calm water of the Santa Monica Bay.\n\n00:02:38:05 - 00:02:39:20\nSha la la la la la la.\n\n00:02:39:20 - 00:02:42:21\nLive for today was my theme song.\n\n00:02:42:21 - 00:02:48:18\nAnd Venice Beach, the bohemian capital\rof Southern California, suited me well.\n\n00:02:48:18 - 00:02:52:02\nI'll go just\rthat far ‘cause that was my introduction\n\n00:02:52:02 - 00:02:56:01\nto my first home in Venice,\reven though I'd been here before.\n\n00:02:56:01 - 00:03:01:19\nI thought it was the official beginning\rof my residency as a Venice person.\n\n00:03:01:19 - 00:03:05:21\nYou know, I had, uh, I moved to California\n\n00:03:05:21 - 00:03:10:16\nmaybe a week after my 19th birthday, 1965,\n\n00:03:10:16 - 00:03:13:11\nand I was leaving my strict Italian\n\n00:03:13:11 - 00:03:19:01\nCatholic New Jersey family to get out because I was\n\n00:03:19:01 - 00:03:22:14\nyou know, I was of that generation,\rthe hippies and I wanted to be a bad girl.\n\n00:03:22:14 - 00:03:27:03\nAnd I had been repressed with the religion\rand the bullshit and the double standard\n\n00:03:27:03 - 00:03:28:07\nand all of that stuff.\n\n00:03:28:07 - 00:03:31:22\nAnd we were right at the beginning\rof the woman's movement\n\n00:03:31:22 - 00:03:35:13\nand civil rights\rand all that was bubbling, you know...\n\n00:03:35:13 - 00:03:40:23\nI told my parents I was moving to\rCalifornia to go to college.\n\n00:03:40:23 - 00:03:44:00\n...and that was...school of hard knocks is what I was going for.\n\n00:03:44:00 - 00:03:47:07\nSo a few months in, in March,\n\n00:03:47:07 - 00:03:51:03\na boyfriend that I had back in New Jersey\rcame out to visit me and rented a car\n\n00:03:51:03 - 00:03:53:23\nand we went all over\rCalifornia, blah, blah, blah, blah.\n\n00:03:53:23 - 00:03:58:05\nAnd the day he left,\rhe left me with the rental car to return\n\n00:03:58:05 - 00:04:01:05\n‘cause he had another day left on the rental\n\n00:04:01:05 - 00:04:03:13\nand I discovered Venice that day.\n\n00:04:03:13 - 00:04:06:12\nI just went wandering by myself and I drove.\n\n00:04:06:12 - 00:04:09:20\nI remember I took Wilshire Boulevard\rall the way down to the beach,\n\n00:04:09:20 - 00:04:10:17\nand then I made a left.\n\n00:04:10:17 - 00:04:14:13\nI don't know where I was going,\ryou know, just,  like wandering.\n\n00:04:14:13 - 00:04:18:17\nAnd I discovered Pacific Ocean Park.\rIt reminded me of Coney Island,\n\n00:04:18:17 - 00:04:23:10\nyou know, it had all these head shops and\rall this stuff, and it was fascinating.\n\n00:04:23:10 - 00:04:28:15\nSo I so after this period,\rafter establishing my apartment,\n\n00:04:28:15 - 00:04:30:01\nin that time, I had\n\n00:04:30:01 - 00:04:35:16\nmade several trips to San Francisco\rand I met a community of performers.\n\n00:04:35:16 - 00:04:37:18\nThis was in ‘72.\n\n00:04:37:18 - 00:04:42:10\nI met the character, the actor\rDivine from the John Waters films,\n\n00:04:42:10 - 00:04:46:12\nand he had just become very famous\rin the counterculture for eating dog\n\n00:04:46:12 - 00:04:50:23\nshit in Pink Flamingos\rJohn Waters movie that put him on the map,\n\n00:04:50:23 - 00:04:56:02\nand Divine was doing a live theater show\rwith a with a gender bender\n\n00:04:56:02 - 00:04:58:12\ntheater company called The Cockettes.\n\n00:04:58:12 - 00:04:59:21\nDivine I just hit it off.\n\n00:04:59:21 - 00:05:02:07\nI always said\rhe was like the mother I wished I had.\n\n00:05:02:07 - 00:05:06:04\nWe just became really tight right away.  So Divine\n\n00:05:06:04 - 00:05:09:01\ncalled me one day\rand I'm in my apartment in Venice.\n\n00:05:09:01 - 00:05:14:07\nI was living on Horizon Avenue\rthen with two gay guys, and one was a pot\n\n00:05:14:07 - 00:05:20:16\ndealing hippie and the other one\rwas a very mainstream gay guy who was\n\n00:05:20:16 - 00:05:23:01\ndrag phobic,\n\n00:05:23:01 - 00:05:26:01\nhe was one of those straight queers.\n\n00:05:26:01 - 00:05:29:20\nWhen I told them the Divine wanted\rto come down and visit, he freaked out.\n\n00:05:29:20 - 00:05:32:06\nSo Divine says, Oh, hi, hon.\n\n00:05:32:06 - 00:05:35:02\nI'm thinking about coming to Venice\rfor the weekend.\n\n00:05:35:02 - 00:05:36:11\nDo you think we could stay with you?\n\n00:05:36:11 - 00:05:40:00\nAnd he was coming with his boyfriend,\rwho was also one of the stars of the show\n\n00:05:40:00 - 00:05:42:21\nI had seen them in,\rand he was a glorious guy.\n\n00:05:42:21 - 00:05:43:09\nI wanted to...\n\n00:05:43:09 - 00:05:48:05\nHe was on the of cover After Dark and with\rMink Stole from the John Waters movies.\n\n00:05:48:05 - 00:05:51:07\nAnd, you know,\rhe was a magical to me as well.\n\n00:05:51:07 - 00:05:54:15\nSo they arrived on a Friday night\rin my little apartment.\n\n00:05:54:15 - 00:05:57:18\nI lived with me\rand my daughter in my bedroom ,\n\n00:05:57:18 - 00:06:02:22\nDorsey, the straight queer lived in the other\rbedroom and Doren, the pot  \n\n00:06:02:22 - 00:06:06:12\ndealer lived on this glassed in porch\rin the front on Horizon\n\n00:06:06:12 - 00:06:09:17\nbetween Main Street and Riviera.\n\n00:06:09:17 - 00:06:14:18\nI guess is the cutoff, just a few blocks away, and um,\n\n00:06:14:18 - 00:06:16:07\nso that night they\n\n00:06:16:07 - 00:06:19:07\narrived and they came with a Divine brought\n\n00:06:19:07 - 00:06:22:17\nDavid, David brought another guy\rI wasn't expecting,\n\n00:06:22:17 - 00:06:27:01\nLorenzo, also an actor, and Lorenzo\rbrought his dog, Little Brother.\n\n00:06:27:01 - 00:06:30:15\nSo I had an entourage, you know, this gang.\n\n00:06:30:15 - 00:06:33:20\nAnd I had to keep them sort of away from Dorsey,\n\n00:06:33:20 - 00:06:38:15\nso I put all of them in my bedroom, and um, I, Viva and I\n\n00:06:38:15 - 00:06:42:21\nlived out in the living room while they...\rso they came for the weekend\n\n00:06:42:21 - 00:06:45:03\nand stayed more than a month.\n\n00:06:45:03 - 00:06:47:19\nAnd my house was like party central\n\n00:06:47:19 - 00:06:50:19\nfor all the gay community in Venice.\n\n00:06:50:19 - 00:06:52:10\nYou know, everybody came to my house\n\n00:06:52:10 - 00:06:56:10\n‘cause Divine was there and Divine loved to bake and I love to cook\n\n00:06:56:10 - 00:06:59:00\nso we'd have these lavish dinner parties\n\n00:06:59:00 - 00:07:03:10\nand we'd go to the beach in the day\rand romp in the waves.\n\n00:07:03:10 - 00:07:05:15\nAnd my daughter was like two years old by then.\n\n00:07:05:15 - 00:07:09:19\nAnd, you know, and she, Divine\rwould carry her with his caftan,\n\n00:07:09:19 - 00:07:11:07\nyou know, down on the sand.\n\n00:07:11:07 - 00:07:14:19\nAnd we'd get down there and party all day\rand party all night.\n\n00:07:14:19 - 00:07:16:23\nYou know,\rit was just a magical time in Venice.\n\n00:07:16:23 - 00:07:19:12\nSo it was very different, you know?\n\n00:07:19:12 - 00:07:23:09\nI mean, the vibe of Venice with nobody\rwanted to live in Venice, nobody decent,\n\n00:07:23:09 - 00:07:27:14\nwanted to live in Venice,\ryou know, only junkies and poor,\n\n00:07:27:14 - 00:07:34:07\npoor people and hippies\rand, you know, and and the the fun queers.\n\n00:07:34:07 - 00:07:35:20\nThey wanted to live in Venice.\n\n00:07:35:20 - 00:07:40:16\nI used to call it the wealth, the, the,\rthe Riviera of the welfare elite...\n\n00:07:40:16 - 00:07:43:02\nWell it, you know, gradually changed.\n\n00:07:43:02 - 00:07:47:16\nYou know, like the old people used to live\ron near the boardwalk in this\n\n00:07:47:16 - 00:07:51:20\nthat senior area right there\rnear Navy, down at the boardwalk here.\n\n00:07:51:20 - 00:07:54:23\nAnd there used to be like these, uh,\n\n00:07:54:23 - 00:07:58:06\ntrolley cars on the boardwalk that\rused to, not trolley, but they were like\n\n00:07:58:06 - 00:08:02:03\nthese little electric buses\rthat would go back and forth.\n\n00:08:02:03 - 00:08:05:13\nAnd, uh, so,\n\n00:08:05:13 - 00:08:08:21\nyou know, there was no scene\ron the boardwalk like there is today.\n\n00:08:08:21 - 00:08:10:07\nThere were no vendors.\n\n00:08:10:07 - 00:08:12:03\nthere was none of that stuff, you know...\n\n00:08:12:03 - 00:08:14:19\nNo tourists?    No, no,...\n\n00:08:14:19 - 00:08:17:09\nNobody, nobody really wanted to come to Venice.\n\n00:08:17:09 - 00:08:22:10\nThe only people that would come here,\rthey came here either by accident or,\n\n00:08:22:10 - 00:08:25:03\nor like joggers that would go through.\n\n00:08:25:03 - 00:08:27:17\n\rLike, I remember we use to party on the beach\n\n00:08:27:17 - 00:08:31:15\ndown by the pier\rwhere all the gay people would...\n\n00:08:31:15 - 00:08:34:21\nnot all the gay people,\ra lot of the guys would go\n\n00:08:34:21 - 00:08:37:22\nhave sex under the pier of Pacific Ocean Park.\n\n00:08:37:22 - 00:08:39:11\nSo there was a little alcove there.\n\n00:08:39:11 - 00:08:41:17\nYeah, it was, It was a very wild scene.\n\n00:08:41:17 - 00:08:45:10\nThe community was very loose and free and, uh,\n\n00:08:45:10 - 00:08:48:04\nyou know,\n\n00:08:48:04 - 00:08:51:20\nand everybody just, uh, you know, partied all the time.\n\n00:08:51:20 - 00:08:55:17\nI mean, you know, I remember that I think\rthe most productive thing I would ever do\n\n00:08:55:17 - 00:08:58:16\nthe course of my day\rwould be the laundry once in a while.\n\n00:08:58:16 - 00:09:00:15\nYeah, that was my life.\n\n00:09:00:15 - 00:09:03:12\nI had no anxiety. I had no ambition.\n\n00:09:03:12 - 00:09:08:20\nYou know, I, I was just being a mom,\rtaking care of my daughter, you know.\n\n00:09:08:20 - 00:09:13:12\nAnd I had all my gay friends,\ryou know, to support me.\n\n00:09:13:12 - 00:09:16:03\n   I make friends with anybody\n\n00:09:16:03 - 00:09:18:17\nthat’ll listen to me...\n\n00:09:18:17 - 00:09:21:16\n...and I go down to the Fig Tree\revery morning for coffee\n\n00:09:21:16 - 00:09:24:06\nand other day the barista said to me,\roh, what are you doing today?\n\n00:09:24:06 - 00:09:27:11\nSo I said I gotta go to the dentist \rand I gotta go to physical therapy\n\n00:09:27:11 - 00:09:31:20\nI said, you know, all my new friends\rare health care professionals.\n\n00:09:31:20 - 00:09:36:03\nI can make friends. I love my doctors,\n\n00:09:36:03 - 00:09:38:00\nYou know, because I have arthritis.\n\n00:09:38:00 - 00:09:38:21\nI have all this shit\n\n00:09:38:21 - 00:09:42:11\nthat you got to deal with physically,\ryou know, which is not fun.\n\n00:09:42:11 - 00:09:46:06\nI don't want to live anywhere else,\ryou know, I mean I love that little slice\n\n00:09:46:06 - 00:09:51:07\nof ocean and sand\rI see through my window and my front porch\n\n00:09:51:07 - 00:09:56:02\nand, I mean, I, I, I'm sorry that...\n\n00:09:56:02 - 00:10:00:11\nthere isn't more of a community,\rbut so many of those people are gone now.\n\n00:10:00:11 - 00:10:05:16\nThere's still some around, you know,\rI mean, that all gone. And, um,\n\n00:10:05:16 - 00:10:09:05\nbut like I said, I don't want to be like, I have new friends now.\n\n00:10:09:05 - 00:10:09:15\nYou know,\n\n00:10:09:15 - 00:10:13:03\nI was telling some kid I met the other day\rwho always has this little doggie\n\n00:10:13:03 - 00:10:15:06\nwalking down the street, lives across the way,\n\n00:10:15:06 - 00:10:18:09\nI just met him, you know, his dog is cute.\n\n00:10:18:09 - 00:10:20:13\nAnd I thought  his dog was a girl, uh,\n\n00:10:20:13 - 00:10:24:16\na boy, actually, I thought, because he's,\rbut he was very fashionable.\n\n00:10:24:16 - 00:10:25:10\nHe always had a thing...\n\n00:10:25:10 - 00:10:28:14\nSo I mentioned something\rand then we became friends.\n\n00:10:28:14 - 00:10:31:14\nAnd then I told him about this project ‘cause he's,\n\n00:10:31:14 - 00:10:34:17\nhe thinks Venice is so cool\rand I want to know more about it.\n\n00:10:34:17 - 00:10:38:04\nAnd I said, well, email me, you know,\rlike, I'll tell you what it's going on\n\n00:10:38:04 - 00:10:42:11\nabout this event\rthat's happening with the... So, you know, um...\n\n00:10:42:11 - 00:10:45:06\nso I guess I don't know\rif Venice has to do with it,\n\n00:10:45:06 - 00:10:48:19\nbut I think Venice\rstill suits me on one level\n\n00:10:48:19 - 00:10:52:07\nbecause even the younger\rgeneration of people are coming in.\n\n00:10:52:07 - 00:10:56:00\nThey're interested in being here\rbecause they know it's special,\n\n00:10:56:00 - 00:11:00:01\neven though they don't know how special it was.\n\n00:11:00:02 - 00:11:01:07\nBut it still is.\n\n00:11:01:07 - 00:11:05:08\nI mean, I guess on some levels,\rI mean, I feel bad that it's so expensive\n\n00:11:05:08 - 00:11:06:11\nto live here.\n\n00:11:06:11 - 00:11:08:03\nWhat would you tell them it's special about it,\n\n00:11:08:03 - 00:11:10:11\nIf somebody new came in?   Well, that's it...\n\n00:11:10:11 - 00:11:13:08\nI’d tell them stories, you know, I'm a storyteller.\n\n00:11:13:08 - 00:11:15:13\nI always have been, that's why I started writing.\n\n00:11:15:13 - 00:11:18:11\nI didn't write my first book until I was 60,\n\n00:11:18:11 - 00:11:21:03\nyou know, ‘cause I've always been a storyteller.\n\n00:11:21:03 - 00:11:24:13\nI mostly did it on stage,\ryou know, through doing shows.\n\n00:11:24:13 - 00:11:27:22\nBut, uh, I would sit there and tell people stories\n\n00:11:27:22 - 00:11:30:19\nabout things\rthat happened to me and that were like,\n\n00:11:30:19 - 00:11:31:07\nOh my\n\n00:11:31:07 - 00:11:34:07\nGod, you,\ryou did that, or you lived through that.\n\n00:11:34:07 - 00:11:39:10\nSo that sort of brought on my new career\ras a writer, which I really never thought,\n\n00:11:39:10 - 00:11:41:15\nI mean, I never graduated college.\n\n00:11:41:15 - 00:11:46:03\nI can't spell to save myself, you know,\rbut I still became a writer...\n\n00:11:46:05 - 00:11:50:13\nThank God for spell check and editors.\n\n00:11:50:14 - 00:11:52:10\nYeah.\n\n00:11:52:10 - 00:11:57:09\nSo Venice is...\n\n00:11:57:09 - 00:11:57:22\nI don't know.\n\n00:11:57:22 - 00:12:01:04\nYou know, I know it's still different from other places.\n\n00:12:01:04 - 00:12:05:02\nIt has a different vibe,\ryou know, from Santa Monica\n\n00:12:05:02 - 00:12:07:01\nto Venice, feels different.\n\n00:12:07:01 - 00:12:11:03\nAnd what is that?    Hmmmm...\n\n00:12:11:05 - 00:12:12:04\nSanta Monica,\n\n00:12:12:04 - 00:12:16:10\nwell, I guess they both attract tourism,\rso it can't really\n\n00:12:16:10 - 00:12:17:13\nI don't know what it is.\n\n00:12:17:13 - 00:12:21:18\nIt's, maybe it’s just because\n\n00:12:21:18 - 00:12:23:22\nso much of my DNA has\n\n00:12:23:22 - 00:12:27:19\nis existing in this side of the border,\n\n00:12:27:19 - 00:12:30:23\nas opposed to that side,\ralthough that's not totally true either,\n\n00:12:30:23 - 00:12:35:03\nI go to the YMCA in Santa Monica,\ryou know, I go to the movies\n\n00:12:35:03 - 00:12:42:10\nin Santa Monica, friends that live in\rSanta Monica, you know, so, but, um...\n\n00:12:42:10 - 00:12:43:14\nwell it has the history,\n\n00:12:43:14 - 00:12:47:19\nI just remember the days when we used to call\n\n00:12:47:19 - 00:12:51:08\nthe neighborhood east of the beach, uh...\n\n00:12:51:08 - 00:12:54:06\nWhat did they call it back then?  Ummm...\n\n00:12:54:06 - 00:12:59:02\nIt was a, you know, a racist,\rderogatory term, Ghost Town.\n\n00:12:59:02 - 00:13:00:13\nThey called it Ghost Town\n\n00:13:00:13 - 00:13:04:18\n‘cause all the black people live there,\ryou know, and the Mexicans and stuff.\n\n00:13:04:18 - 00:13:07:11\nSo, and, and nobody,\n\n00:13:07:11 - 00:13:11:15\nyou know, middle class\rpeople did not want to live in Venice.\n\n00:13:11:15 - 00:13:16:07\nThey thought it was a dangerous place\rto live, you know, because it was full of,\n\n00:13:16:07 - 00:13:19:05\nyou know, ethnic groups and junkies\n\n00:13:19:05 - 00:13:22:05\nand hippies and, uh,\n\n00:13:22:05 - 00:13:29:21\nbut we hippies, like that, you know, \rit was our town, you know, back then...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://veniceheritagemuseum.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2416/collection_resources/108844/file/210659#t=0.0,829.568"}]}]}]}